nonsense. >> think of the people of connecticut they have been and trauma. it could be behavioral therapy that is what we talk about. it is remarkable what can be done. john: what is goldman bent $10 million? >> alatas studies on this specific intervention says it works well for this 6318 population that is being treated as adults in the adult jail. john: you have volunteers in this did in vermont? >> good ideas with this of what we're talking about i hope this comes out good but a good idea is spread because they want to start their own versson so volunteers in medicine say free clinics can help those without insurance as well as obamacare. now there are 92 free clinics. after 15 years. it is not a media. 100 years ago we had a lot of immigrants and settlement houses across the united states. they copied each other it was not located through department of hhs but they raise their own money. this process can still go on. we can encourage it. >> now with a sophisticated website you can see where the money goes? >> you have better indicators. not just how the money is spent but the results.